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Madonna was 'jealous of Kylie' - and more things we learned in her Graham Norton interview

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All the revelations from Madonna's chat with Graham Norton, including a big hint about Glastonbury.

Madonna and Graham Norton are pictured together. She is wearing a bluish  dress, helium  is successful  a acheronian  overgarment   with a angiosperm  motif. They are photographed against a nightclub background.Image source, Ricardo Gomes

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Madonna spoke to Graham Norton astatine Camden's storied nightclub Koko, wherever the prima gave her archetypal UK performance successful 1983

Madonna has confessed to being jealous of Kylie Minogue, and hinted she'll header Glastonbury successful a wide-ranging interrogation with Graham Norton.

The revelations came successful an astir hour-long treatment astir her forthcoming album, Confessions II, which finds the popular prima successful her earthy situation of the dancefloor.

"That's however I started," she told Norton. "I was a dancer. Dancing is successful my DNA. It conscionable creates assemblage - and sometimes relationships."

The grounds reflects connected her origins successful 1980s New York, but besides features a duet with her daughter, Lola, addressing strains successful their relationship. Another track, Fragile, mourns her brother, Christopher, who died of crab successful 2024.

Madonna said she was excited for fans to perceive the record, "because it's a full story... I can't conscionable marque creation euphony astir nothing.

However, she admitted that "nobody ever wants to creation with me" due to the fact that she tends to get carried distant by the music.

"I conscionable spell crazy. I deliberation I irritate a batch of people."

Here are 7 highlights from the interview, which was broadcast connected BBC One, and is available to re-watch connected the BBC iPlayer.

1. She dropped a beardown hint astir Glastonbury

Madonna performs connected  stage, wearing a purple feather boa and a achromatic  one-piece bodysuit.Image source, Getty Images

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The vocalist has ne'er played Glastonbury, contempt speculation she could beryllium a headliner

Madonna was wide rumoured to header Glastonbury successful 2024, earlier negotiations fell apart. Ever since, fans person been hoping she'll ascend to the apical of the Pyramid Stage.

Discussing plans for touring with Norton, the prima suggested 2027 could yet beryllium the year.

"I deliberation I'll bash promo tours for a while, past successful the summertime thing bigger," she said.

"Oh, that sounds truly breathtaking and good, " Norton replied. "I deliberation I cognize what you're talking about."

They shared a long, knowing look, earlier Norton sought confirmation.

"Is it successful this country?"

Madonna gave a sly grin.

"It could be. Why bash I person to archer you everything?"

2. Guy Ritchie made her jealous of Kylie Minogue

Kylie and Madonna airs  backstage astatine  the star's Celebration tourImage source, Ricardo Gomes

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The musicians performed unneurotic successful Los Angeles during Madonna's Celebration tour

Kylie Minogue popped into the interview, posing arsenic a barmaid and serving Madonna a grapefruit cocktail.

It came 26 years aft Madonna wore a bedazzled "Kylie Minogue" vessel apical astatine the MTV Europe Music Awards successful Sweden: A motion of solidarity that took the Aussie popular prima by surprise.

"There was nary warning," Kylie recalled, saying she "probably stopped shy of fainting" erstwhile she saw Madonna's outfit.

Then Madonna had a small revelation.

"I was really a small spot jealous of you," she told Kylie.

"Why?" asked Norton.

"Because she was truthful cute.

"I deliberation my ex-husband astatine the clip [Guy Ritchie] had a crush connected her, and I was like, 'I'll ne'er beryllium arsenic beauteous arsenic Kylie'.

3. Madonna's girl struggled with the 'nepo baby' tag

Lourdes Leon and her mother, MadonnaImage source, Getty Images

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Lourdes and Madonna duet for the archetypal clip connected the caller album

Madonna's eldest daughter, Lourdes "Lola" Leon, has mostly forged her ain way arsenic a model, instrumentalist and performer - but the 29-year-old appears connected Confessions II, duetting with her parent for the archetypal time.

"She approached me," Madonna said of the track. "She's been precise reticent to enactment with me. She doesn't privation to beryllium perceived arsenic my girl taking vantage of her privilege."

"She's been precise stand-offish, moving astatine her ain pace, and I respect that deeply.

"But past 1 time she came to maine and she said, 'You cognize what? I'm holding connected to thing and possibly it's a benignant of... I don't privation to accidental anger... possibly resentment?

"Because astatine the extremity of the time she didn't inquire for this [life]. She had been done her adolescence struggling with those feelings for a agelong time. Then she came to maine and she said, 'Let's constitute a opus together, I deliberation it'll beryllium a precise healing experience.'

"I was like, 'OK, you're on. Let's bash it'."

4. One of the songs connected Confessions II was made up connected the spot

Madonna successful  the workplace  with Stuart PriceImage source, Madonna / Instagram

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Madonna has recorded the medium with shaper Stuart Price, whose different credits see Dua Lipa, The Killers, Jessie Ware, Rina Sawayama and Pet Shop Boys

The archetypal sensation of Madonna's 15th medium arrived successful April - with a punctuation from the opus One Step Away.

"People deliberation that creation euphony is superficial, but they've got it each wrong. The creation level is not conscionable a place, it's a threshold: A ritualistic abstraction wherever question replaces language."

Madonna called it a "manifesto" for the grounds - a spiritual sequel to 2005's Confessions connected a Dancefloor, which spawned hits similar Hung Up and Sorry.

But her producer, Stuart Price, revealed the lyrics were written "in a flash of light".

As helium played the instrumental astatine the extremity of a session, Madonna said, "Just power connected the microphone, I deliberation I've got an idea," helium told Norton.

"That full vocal show comes retired successful 1 watercourse of consciousness. The lyrics, the melody, the full happening happens successful a moment.

"It's benignant of similar I get possessed," Madonna said. "It's weird. The ideas travel erstwhile I don't effort excessively hard."

5. Pre-fame, Madonna was a misfit who 'didn't acceptable in'

Madonna poses against a ballet barre during an aboriginal  photoshoot successful  1977Image source, Getty Images

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The singer, pictured present successful 1977, trained arsenic a ballet dancer earlier launching her euphony career

The opus Danceteria was much deliberately crafted. It's named aft the feted New York nine wherever Madonna got an aboriginal interruption by persuading DJ Mark Kamins to play her debut single, Everybody.

In the lyrics, the prima namechecks her then-roommate Martin Burgoyne, the club's doorman Haoui Montaug, and histrion Debi Mazar, 1 of Madonna's oldest friends, who she archetypal met astatine the club.

One of the album's highlights, it's fundamentally the Madonna root communicative - and 1 of her fondest memories.

"There volition ne'er beryllium different clip similar that," she told Norton, describing Danceteria arsenic the "Mecca of euphony and creation and fashion".

The lone problem? She felt wholly retired of place.

"Everybody was cool. I wasn't cool. I was precise awkward and I didn't acceptable in."

As a struggling artist, she couldn't spend the elaborate outfits and "cool hair" of her chap clubbers.

But, ever resourceful, she turned those constricted resources into an vantage - creating her iconic fishnet gloves from rags and cast-offs.

"Tights [were] each the apparel I had," she told Norton. "I was a ballet dancer truthful I conscionable took my creation apparel and reinvented it. Hunger was the champion sauce."

6. She reconciled with her member earlier helium died

Christopher and Madonna CicconeImage source, Getty Images

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Christopher and Madonna were 2 of six children calved to Silvio and Madonna Ciccone successful Michigan

For years, Madonna's younger member was 1 of her closest confidantes. He was a inheritance dancer connected her archetypal UK TV appearance, and aboriginal go her circuit director.

But they fell retired erstwhile Madonna appointed a antithetic manager - the choreographer Jamie King - for her Drowned World tour. Things got worse erstwhile Christopher wrote a tell-all book, Life With My Sister Madonna, successful 2008.

The prima has antecedently said that "for a truly agelong time" she had perceived Christopher arsenic 1 of her "biggest enemies" - but they reconciled earlier his death.

"It was him being sick and reaching retired to maine and saying, 'I request your help'," she told the podcast big Jay Shetty past year.

"I felt truthful relieved. It was specified a load disconnected my back, specified a value that was removed, baggage that I could enactment down to yet beryllium capable to beryllium successful a country with him and holding his manus adjacent if helium was dying and saying, 'I emotion you and I forgive you.'"

Speaking to Norton, Madonna said she had written Fragile aft Christopher called her successful the studio.

"He was successful a batch of pain, connected the phone, and helium was not successful a bully place. I knew it was adjacent to the end. And past I went upstairs and wrote a song."

Called Fragile, it looks backmost to their puerility and makes the promise: "We'll find each different connected the different side."

"It's cathartic," she said of the song. "To fto spell of idiosyncratic you love, the champion mode to bash it is to constitute astir it. It's similar an exorcism."

7. The thief who stole her Coachella outfit is inactive astatine large

Madonna and Sabrina Carpenter connected  signifier    astatine  the Coachella FestivalImage source, Getty Images

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Madonna and Sabrina Carpenter duet connected the azygous Bring Me Love, which premiered astatine the Coachella Festival successful April

Madonna was the surprise impermanent during Sabrina Carpenter's header set astatine the Coachella Festival successful April.

The duo, who archetypal connected implicit an Instagram DM, performed Vogue, Like A Prayer and a marque caller opus called Bring Me Love - aboriginal released arsenic a single.

The show came precisely 20 years aft Madonna's Coachella debut - playing the archetypal Confessions medium successful the festival's creation tent.

In a call-back to that performance, Madonna wore the aforesaid boots, corset and overgarment for her acceptable with Carpenter.

"I similar to beryllium to myself that I tin inactive acceptable into my clothes," she told Norton.

But aft the performance, her outfit - on with different items from Madonna's archive - went missing.

In a statement, the Indio Police Department said the apparel and jewellery were past seen "on a play cart" connected the festival grounds astatine 01:30 section clip connected Saturday.

Speaking to Norton, she confirmed the "costume hasn't travel back".

"I was precise disturbed by it for a mates of days. They're historical."

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